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Listen to this here episode first. A priori, that is. Before experiencing the world yourself. Why should you bother to go through the trouble of downloading and listening to one of the full length episodes? Who are we anyway? Why shouldn’t you just go listen to some philosophy lectures posted by university professors instead of this thing? Do you need to listen to the episodes in order? Do you need to already know a lot about philosophy to get anything out of this podcast? Should you listen to it while pleasuring yourself? Most of these questions will be answered here! End song: “New People” by New People. Once you’ve finished this, you can jump to episode 1 (and its continuation).Transcript
0:07 Mark: You're listening to the Partially Examined Life Special, Episode 0, where we explain what we're doing here and why you should bother to listen to one of the full length episodes. My name is Mark Linsenmayer. I'm speaking to you from Madison, Wisconsin.
0:22 Seth: This is Seth Paskin from Austin, Texas.
0:24 Wes: This is Wes Alwan in Boston, Massachusetts.
0:27 Seth: So you might be asking yourself, with a name like Partially Examined Life, what is this podcast all about? This is a podcast about philosophy, philosophers and philosophical texts. In each episode we focus on a short reading or text that introduces at least one big philosophical question, concern or idea, and we talk about it.
0:47 Mark: We do not assume any prior philosophical knowledge. Not that you've taken a course, not that you've read the text that we're talking about, although we do post links to online versions of all the text on our website, partiallyexaminedlife.com the idea is
1:01 Seth: that if you are so motivated to go and do the reading beforehand, then you'll be able to reference the text and the issue we're talking about. If you don't, theoretically we're going to try to keep the conversation jargon free enough and gratuitous name drop free enough so that you can follow and at least make salient points without having to reference those sorts of things so that at least it's a general discussion that can be followed. I imagine that we are more or less successful at that on any given week. Oftentimes it's very difficult to avoid, particularly if the texts themselves are referring to other philosophers. It's kind of hard to avoid at least mentioning them or discussing them.
1:41 Mark: Yeah, but we'll try to give an explanation of the individual point that we're bringing up we're referencing, somebody will explain the relevant point about that author. And over time, if you listen to a bunch of these episodes, since we keep name dropping the same people like Immanuel Kant again and again, even if you've never read any Kant, you'll eventually get a clue what we're talking about.
2:00 Wes: The podcast is meant to be educational, but not boring. Think about going out after school for drinks with friends to discuss what you've just been sleeping through in your class earlier in the day.
2:12 Seth: Yes, this is the discussion in the dorm room, not the lecture hall.
2:17 Mark: And in fact, back during the Clinton years, we were all graduate students together at the University of Texas in philosophy. So in other words, somebody admitted us to this school. We were deemed smart enough or capable enough to be in their presence and we had these three hour lectures, these three hour Seminars. And those were not nearly as fun as going out for beer with everybody afterward. And that's kind of what we're doing, reliving those good old days.
2:41 Seth: Yes. However, at no point in time did we actually live together.
2:45 Mark: Wes and I actually did. Roommates.
2:48 Wes: Yep.
2:49 Mark: For a little time.
2:51 Wes: Long time ago. Yes.
2:53 Mark: And then all dropped out at some point or career redirected or however you want to describe it before getting the actual PhD and making philosophy. Wes was kicked out for drugs.
3:08 Unknown speaker: No, no, no.
3:10 Mark: All good and honest. Not even flunking out. There was no flunking.
3:13 Unknown speaker: Right.
3:13 Seth: We all got our master's degree.
3:15 Unknown speaker: Right.
3:15 Mark: So even though we were set at to doing this for a living, we all at some point thought, nah. And we have since had real jobs. I say in quotes, something outside of the world of philosophy which gives us a certain objectivity about the craziness that is this self referential edifice that is academia. So why should you bother to listen to this? As opposed to actual professors spouting off things that they've prepared and lectured to thousands of people on a daily basis? We are in a position to reflect on the idiosyncrasies of the profession that we are no longer a part of. Just exactly how strange what a lot of academic philosophy is. Some of the things that philosophers talk about are just weird and are of no interest to anyone who's not a professional philosopher. Would you not agree?
4:04 Seth: I would agree, yes.
4:06 Wes: I would not disagree.
4:08 Mark: So we try to give the common man's perspective because we're so just come and manage. Especially Wes,
4:16 Wes: for professionals, you know, there's the pressure to be professional and there's the reluctance to improvise the way you would in a podcast like this, to have anything less than precise or less than scholarly. And I think that can kind of take the excitement out of some of it. And I think the dialogue. That's another difference. There's a difference between a lecture and then people talking things over and disagreeing sometimes and cracking jokes that may not
4:40 Mark: come off getting sidetracked. So we will have no problem talking about things from popular culture.
4:47 Seth: So you might be asking yourself, since these episodes are numbered and this is technically episode zero, do I have to listen to these episodes in order? The answer to that question is no. They are intended to be atomic, or at least individual enough that you could listen to them without having listened to any of the others. However, as you might expect, we make reference in later episodes to things that are said in earlier episodes and so forth. And of course, the text that we refer to in the earlier episodes might be referenced in the later episodes.
5:17 Mark: However, we also are prescient enough to refer to things in future episodes in current episodes, often referring to them in the past tense.
5:24 Wes: If it sounds like name dropping, it's just prescience.
5:28 Mark: Yes, exactly. Given that we are human beings and are building upon our philosophical discursive relationship with each other and our spiritual journey as we rediscover the wonders of philosophy, it probably wouldn't hurt. If you're going to listen to them all anyway, just start at the beginning.
5:44 Wes: They're all good.
5:46 Mark: That's right. These are very long episodes, you may have noticed, but they're not nearly as long as a philosophical conversation you would actually have with somebody late night drinking beer. So think about that, and I'm sure some of you have long commutes. You should get some damn exercise. You can listen to this while you exercise if you must. Just sitting at your computer for a full hour and a half. I hope that you are at least neglecting some work that you should be doing and not just using this as your free time, but really what a who might be.
6:15 Wes: And also drinking. If that's going to help you get through the whole hour and a half,
6:18 Seth: I should like to point out that they are long enough. They are neither too short nor too long.
6:24 Mark: That's right. And we even do edit out some of the more inane things that are said.
6:28 Seth: Yes, so we do have a website, www.preiallyexaminedlife.com and you can listen to the episodes directly through that website. You can also download them as MP3 files from that website, or you can subscribe to the Partially Examined Life podcast on itunes and download them to your Apple approved device.
6:51 Mark: We have a couple places where you can give us some feedback or discuss some of the issues we've been talking about. One of them is on Facebook. We've got a link from our Partially Examined Life page to a special Facebook page that you can join up, make yourself publicly associated with us and discuss some things or give us some ideas for future topics.
7:09 Unknown speaker: Another place is partiallyexaminedlife.com itself where you can comment on any of the many blog posts that we post on a nearly daily basis to provide you supplementary information. It's what we cover on the podcast. We do welcome guest writers for that if you're interested. Also, the website has a members area if you become a pel citizen for a low monthly fee, you get access to member only discussion groups called Not School as well as access to bonus audio such as current commercial free episodes, some episodes that have been pulled from the public feed, not school discussion group audio and additional bonus audio created purely for that member group.
So you can log into our website with your paid membership and download any of that or get it sent straight to you on your mobile device via our password protected feed. We've also got a Twitter group, a LinkedIn group, a YouTube page. There are many, many ways to interact with us.
7:57 Wes: If you'd like to know more about who we are, what we're doing today, you can visit partiallyexaminedlife.com and go to the About Us section. And there are bios for each of us.
8:08 Seth: So I guess that's pretty much it.
8:10 Mark: Yeah, go listen to some episodes. Thanks.
8:14 Seth: So we welcome you and thank you for joining us on this journey.
8:20 Wes: Woo hoo.
8:22 Unknown speaker: New people talking on the floor laid out like an open hand New people are acting fairly normal sure they've got a story, sure that they could understand. It's probably painful, it's probably rude New people they offer their attention maybe for the afternoon New people they often fail to mention that they must be going that they got it going soon. That probably pay for you probably lose Few people really get to know you really get to understand Most people in lotto coexistence not that you're insistent, not that you would make demands they're probably famous, you're probably nude. Sam. I separate from you New people make you feel too
10:24 Wes: few.
Ever read I.F. Stone’s book on the trial of Socrates???
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/socrates/ifstoneinterview.html
“….Plato turned the trial of his master, Socrates, into a trial of Athens and of democracy. He used it to demonstrate that the common people were too ignorant, benighted and fickle to entrust with political power. In Plato’s “Apology,” the contrast drawn between the nobility of Socrates and the grim verdict of his juror-judges indicted democracy in the eyes of posterity. And thanks to his genius, no other trial except that of Jesus has so captured the imagination of Western man.
Plato made Socrates the secular martyred saint of the struggle against democracy. He stigmatized it as “mobocracy.” Yet this was the very same “mob” which applauded the anti-war plays of Aristophanes when Athens was fighting for its life against Sparta. (No such antiwar plays were allowed, by either side, during our last two World Wars). This was the same “mob” whose eagerness for new ideas, and its readiness to hear them, drew philosophers from all over the ancient world. It made Athens – in the proud words of Pericles – “the school of Hellas,” the university of the Greek world. It is the high repute of Athens that makes the trial of Socrates so puzzling. “
I’m going to enjoy this. A lot.
Yes, yes you are…
Well, this is exciting. I haven’t listened to any other episodes yet but I figured I’d listen to the hosts describing what the podcasts are intended to be. And it was good news; I like the informal atmosphere!
I may just take their advice and save some lectures to an old iPod Nano (I think that’s what it’s called) if I can manage to find it.
Thanks for listening, Tim. Let us know how you like it as you proceed…
Okay, so I’ve listened to Episode 1, Part 1. I even rewound certain parts if my attention wandered briefly.
It’s great stuff! It reminds me of a get-together I used to have with my friends back in 1993. Our Wednesday Night Study Group would examine a different topic each week. The group initially followed a strict structure, complete with printed hand-outs, but eventually the format evolved into easy-going but nonetheless enthusiastic chatter during an elaborate meal which could easily last three hours. How time flies when you’re talking about such things with good friends!
As with our group, it seems that you discuss with plenty of humor, enjoying the company of one another. Your setting is precisely what I’d hoped it would be when I first discovered your podcasts.
As for the content, I’ve skimmed the upcoming installments and I’m looking forward to the episodes about Descartes and William James, to name just two. I’ve transferred something like 17 hours of episodes onto a old iPod and I’m looking forward to relaxing while I listen.
One thing I’ve so far found particularly appealing is that there doesn’t seem to be the attitude of “You MUST know this stuff.” To me, this stuff is … interesting. Lest that sound like faint praise, let me say that it’s EXTREMELY interesting, if not outright fascinating. It’s rather like exploring the wilderness, never knowing what wonders will be revealed just past the next bend of the river. Speaking only for myself, I say that that is the essence of “fun.”
I may comment further, later on, but I figured I should at least give you some initial feedback.
Thanks!
This is brilliant that I’ve found this! I have been thinking about doing philosophy in university when I start next year, this might help me find out if it’s something I might like!
So thank you for doing this! Prospective university students need help to understand what they are considering doing a four year degree in before they dive into it!
Hi guys listened to your first podcast. Interesting work. Really appreciate it.
This is awesome.
My intellectual journey has started similar to Mark’s steps through the college years. I find your podcasts thus far very ‘life-giving’ (believe it or not!) by the honesty of the discussion, the frankness of your all’s thoughts, and the confident follow-through of this lifelong questioning process. Remarkable!
David
What if I don’t do anything else besides listening to the podcast? :w
CanI have transcription ?
We only have transcriptions for a handful of episodes; it has not proven cost-effective in general. Thanks. -Mark
I’m a little late to the party, but I’m looking forward to listening to your podcasts 🙂
I am also late to the party, but I’m eager to start listening! I’ve been listening to the wonderful History of Philosophy podcast from King’s College, but I was craving something with more of a discussion component.
#teamseth
I’d like you to read Donna Haraway who in my opinion is really fun to read, current, and extremely vital in the contemporary debate . I also don’t get why Wes didn’t bring up more stuff with Judith Butler! I think there’s a lot of She’s a great reader so it’s disappointing that this wasn’t set up like one of the earlier attempts of doing a reading with a guest philosopher.
My preferred podcast crossover discussion would be with the always already podcast since they enjoy and focus on a lot of the stuff you are interested but seem mildly allergic to.
hi,
came to know about your project from coursera where i am taking the course introduction to philolosophy. hope this will be helpful for me and for my students too who i am teaching introduction to phiolosophy. its actually for them i am going all these stuffs.
if you guys wanna suggest regarding how should i b teaching philosophy i would be thankful