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What Do Existentialists Think about Love?

July 10, 2016 by Ana Sandoiu 12 Comments

In this video, philosopher Skye Cleary introduces her new book, Existentialism and Romantic Love. If you skip past the rather awkward acting of Simone de Beauvoir’s play Who Shall Die, from about the sixth minute onward things become interesting. In a style that has become her own—treading lightly (and gracefully) between scholarly analysis and a lighter, more popular interpretation of philosophy—Cleary walks us through the work of five existentialist thinkers: Stirner, Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Sartre, and Beauvoir.

Often considered a nihilistic egoist, Stirner has a somewhat radical view on love. He discards everything from religion and moral values to intellect and rationality as nothing more than "obstructions" getting in the way of self-mastery—and love might be one of these obstructions. Stirner has two main issues with love: one is that all too often it becomes burdened with a sense of duty. What makes love blind and crazy is how overly preoccupied we are with what we should do and what it should feel like. Love is just like any other obstruction and we shouldn’t elevate it on a pedestal or subordinate ourselves to it. Secondly, we are not to fool ourselves thinking love is selfless—it is quite the opposite, a supremely egoistic act. Stirner’s antidote to all of this is self-love, and self-love is based on three cornerstones: self-acceptance, self-interest (in the sense of getting the most value out of life), and self-governance. Being oneself means being master of oneself, and love might even pose a threat to self-governance, to what Stirner calls our "ownness," as we are not to let anyone, not even our loved one, be our master. Love shouldn’t have anything to do with hierarchies or domination, and the best relationships are free associations between people who pursue mutual goals, goals that would have been a lot harder to attain individually. From the appreciation of unique qualities in our lover, to accepting that he or she no longer has those qualities, Stirner seems to stress that love is conditional, and we shouldn’t cling to what is socially expected of the concept.

Watch the rest of the video see what Kierkegaard has to say about marriage, anxiety, and religion, and to learn more about his three spheres of existence and how they relate to different kinds of love. Nietzsche has a lot in common with Stirner—he stresses the importance of self-mastery and largely sees love as an impediment in our way to reaching the Ubermensch ideal. He also views love as a "deadly war between the sexes," a conflict between men's and women’s different manifestations of their will to power. Cleary does well in leaving power couple Sartre and Beauvoir until the end, saving the best for last: Sartre has fascinating things to say about sadism, masochism, and the difficulties of reconciling love with our own desire for freedom as well as acknowledging the freedom of our loved one. Beauvoir thinks freedom from oppression is a necessary condition for being able to love authentically, which is particularly challenging for women, who are used to being in a subordinate position.

If you’ve watched the whole video and still want to know more about existentialists and their views on love, Cleary’s book is worth the read. If you want to dig deeper into philosophers’ views on love and see where it all started, listen to our episodes on Plato’s Phaedrus and Symposium.

Ana Sandoiu is a writer, researcher & philosophy lover living in Brighton, UK. She also writes on her personal blog, On a Saturday Morning.

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  1. Christopher Frederick says

    July 10, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    I’m not sure it is helpful to view “love” in such ways. It is far too big a concept in which to pin down any satisfiable meaning. Love is as much a thing as it is an act. To call it merely an obstruction or burdensome, in my opinion, gets us nowhere. Love is pleasurable and painful, paradoxical. To my mind ‘Love’ is a very sharp knife with an equally sharp blade for its handle…

    Cheers,
    Fredbo

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    • Ana Sandoiu says

      July 12, 2016 at 7:25 pm

      I think that’s a beautiful way of putting it, Fredbo. I personally found Beauvoir’s view on love the most satisfying – the mutual recognition of each other’s freedom. And I think there is also value in reminding ourselves that love is not the be-all & end-all of our emotional or intellectual lives – and maybe this is where Stirner is useful. Perhaps Stirner’s ‘ownness’ is equivalent to Beauvoir and Sartre’s ‘freedom’, and perhaps the challenge lies not in finding new ways of enchanting ourselves with love, but ways of thriving and surviving in spite of it 🙂

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      • Christopher Frederick says

        July 12, 2016 at 7:57 pm

        “…thriving and surviving in spite of it.”

        Nice!

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      • Christopher Frederick says

        July 12, 2016 at 8:11 pm

        P.S.

        On a whim I googled “The teleology of love.” I thought you might find this result disturbingly amusing:

        http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/288276.html

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        • Ana Sandoiu says

          July 13, 2016 at 7:41 am

          I just found it disturbing 😀

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          • Alan Cook says

            July 14, 2016 at 11:01 am

            There’s a much more nuanced discussion of the teleology of desire in Roger Scruton’s book Sexual Desire. The book is available as a pdf here. For starters, do a search on “the aim of desire” to find the section with that subtitle; but the whole book is well worth reading.

          • Ana Sandoiu says

            July 21, 2016 at 10:36 am

            Hi Alan, I don’t think you gave us the right link, but anyways I’ve read “Sexual desire” and although it makes some very interesting points (I particularly enjoyed the bit about Plato’s question, the idea that erotic love is, in a way, an attempt to moralize our desire, a rationalization we make in order to preserve our illusion of freedom once we’ve been subjected to the destiny of our erotic desire, I also enjoyed his focus on embodiment, etc.), but despite all of this, you do know he uses the philosophical scaffolding that is his entire book – to condemn homosexuality, right? Not exclusively, he also condemns masturbation (another thing I find difficult to get behind), but generally I find teleology a pretty dangerous concept (the notion of ‘telos’ is so difficult to support epistemologically & and also it’s morally tricky, once you find a ‘telos’ you have to exclude others) so overall I think it’s difficult to defend applying such a–maybe even ‘outdated’–concept to human sexuality in all its (now known) variety.

  2. Ekachai Jarukirti Sapparojpattana says

    July 11, 2016 at 12:56 am

    Theravada Buddhism has a few terms that closed to “LOVE” i.e. METTA (Loving Kindness), KAMA (Sensual Pleasure) and PEMA (LOVE OF COUPLE). In an English Dictionary written, “LOVE” is rooted from, Pali, “LOBHA” means “constantly unfulfilled of sensual pleasure.”

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    • Ana Sandoiu says

      July 12, 2016 at 7:31 pm

      I didn’t know that, thanks! 🙂

      Reply
    • Alan Cook says

      July 14, 2016 at 10:54 am

      Strictly speaking, the Pali lobha isn’t the root of the English love; rather, they both stem from a common Indo-European root which has been hypothetically reconstructed as *lewbʰ- . See https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/love. The Sanskrit cognate is lubhyati, “desires,” and Pali forms are almost always pretty close to the Sanskrit.

      This is a rich semantic field. Mrs. Rhys Davids, who first translated much of the Pali Canon into English, made the observation that the English word “desire” could be used as a translation of no less than 16 Pali terms.

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  3. Wayne Schroeder says

    July 19, 2016 at 12:28 am

    Existential Love:

    Nietzsche: Amor Fati
    Sartre, Tillich: Authenticity
    Camus, Kafka: Solidarity in absurdity
    Kierkegaard: Faith
    Beauvoir: Source of life
    Heidegger: Sorge
    Buber: I and Thou
    Jaspers: Existenzphilosophie
    Vonnegut: And so it goes

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