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Phi Fic LogoPhi Fic means Philosophical Fiction. Each episode, we have a candid dicussion on a heady work of of fiction, full of SPOILERS. Join host Nathan Hanks and readers Cezary Baraniecki, Daniel St. Pierre, Laura Davis, and Mary Claire, plus the occasional guest.

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Phi Fic #32 Tender is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald

February 21, 2020 by Laura Davis 2 Comments

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There was some element of loneliness involved—so easy to be loved—so hard to love.

-Tender is the Night

This episode we are reading Tender is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald. Reflected upon by Ernest Hemingway: “…in retrospect, Tender is the Night gets better and better,” which came a good time after his first comment to F. Scott: “Not as good as you can do.”

The novel follows the emotional demise and world of Dick Diver. Diver, a Yale-educated psychiatrist, and his wife, Nicole—once his patient and a diagnosed schizophrenic—are extremely well-to-do (thanks to Nicole’s family), and are living as expats in the French Riviera. While there, Dick meets Rosemary Hoyt, a teenage movie actress phenom whose beauty and innocence attracts him despite his commitment to Nicole. He ends up having an affair with Rosemary, as his identity and sense of meaning fall apart. As Dick suffers, Nicole gets stronger and leaves him for another man. After they divorce, Diver returns the U.S.—to work in obscurity.

The book is written in 3 non-linear sections detailing the evolving, internal, suffocating weaknesses of Dick Diver––as a husband, as a doctor, as a man. Fitzgerald once said: “A whole lot of people just skimmed through the book for the story,” [he] complained, “and it simply can’t be read that way.”

“…it was as if for the remainder of his life he was condemned to carry with him the egos of certain people, early met and early loved, and to be only as complete as they were complete themselves.”

-Tender is the Night

Join Nathan, Cezary, Laura, Jennifer and Daniel, as we tackle this intriguing novel—and try to make sense of sentences such as:  “Like most women she liked to be told how she should feel…” as well as the meaning of the title, which was taken from John Keats’ poem Ode to a Nightingale.

It was noted by the critic, R.W.B Lewis about Fitzgerald’s prose: "His words are never in love with themselves.”

Watch the 1962 movie starring Jason Robards and Jennifer Jones:

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  1. Mike says

    February 22, 2020 at 8:12 am

    So much of the book seems to be an exploration of the sorts of social coding that we are all injected with, such the sentence under discussion, “Like most women she liked to be told how she should feel…” is both the narrator’s critique of the coding, as well as the narrators enactment of the coding, something akin to a more modern manifestation of the sentence, such as: “Like most women she liked to be told how she Is being oppressed under the system of patriarchy…” The sentence uncovers how it is that we form identity around desires, both individually and socially, that are “told” to us and internalized by us as “being true” in our experiencing of the world.

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  2. Laura Davis says

    February 29, 2020 at 3:08 pm

    Thanks for your thoughts Mike. And yes I agree. It has been a deep fear inside of me since childhood that our identities a formed far outside of ourselves…who really constructs that coding?……..and considering the narrator in Tender…as well as my concerns as a writer myself, the thought hits me often: where are those words actually coming from, where did they–truly–originate…..?

    Laura

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