Pretty Much Pop #91: Pet Culture w/ Trainer Hannah Branigan

What is with the weird relationship we Americans have with our pets? Many of us treat them as our babies, yet of course they’re our captives. Dog trainer Hannah Branigan joins Mark, Erica, and Brian to talk about pets as entertainment, as hobby, and as pandemic companions. How can we make this relationship as beneficial as possible for all involved, and how can learning to be a better pet owner inform our treatment of other people? Plus, what do we want out of TV talking animals, dog training TV, and the abomination that is Pooch Perfect.

Hannah’s podcast is Drinking from the Toilet, and you can learn more about her book and training program at A couple of her podcast episodes that we refer to are #129 Treat Everyone Like a Dog, #114 Accidental Behavior, and #80 I Wrote a Book.

And a few article links as usual:

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Hannah then tried going “down low” but alas, was “too slow.”

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