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Pretty Much Pop #143: Pinocchio the Unfilmable (Yet Frequently Filmed)

January 30, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer 1 Comment

The PMP core four (Mark, Lawrence, Sarahlyn, and Al) discuss the original 1883 freaky children's story by Carlo Collodi and consider the recent rush of film versions, from a new Disney/Robert Zemikis CGI take to Guillermo del Toro's stop-motion passion project to a heavily costumed Italian version by Matteo Garrone, which is the second to feature Oscar winner Roberto Benigni in  Continue Reading …

Philosophy vs. Improv #46: Seize the Day How Exactly? w/ Nick Riggle

January 30, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

What does the shortness of our lives and the beauty of the world actually entail in terms of behavior and philosophy? Nick is a former pro skater who teaches philosophy at U. of San Diego and has written This Beauty about this question, as well as On Being Awesome. Mark and Bill (your philosophy/comedy puppets, here eternally to dance for your entertainment) engage Nick via  Continue Reading …

Ep. 309: Wittgenstein On Certainty (Part Two)

January 30, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get both parts of this episode ad free, plus a supporter exclusive PEL Nightcap discussion. Continuing our discussion from part one of On Certainty (1951), we do some close reading of the text. How does he actually respond to Moore's argument about his hand? How does he extend his account to talk about mathematical and scientific statements? Is Wittgenstein a  Continue Reading …

PEL Nightcap January 2023

January 29, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Recorded on 1/12/13, Mark, Wes, and Dylan first talk about our upcoming Dostyevsky live show (April 15 in NYC; we hope to have tickets on sale soon, and supporters will get first crack at them) and talk about our debate over translations of The Brothers Karamazov, as inspired by this article and this one. Here's the reddit page that actually pulls passages from both  Continue Reading …

C&C Ep. 75 Homer’s “Iliad” Book 17

January 29, 2023 by Jeff Black Leave a Comment

Shilo gets a new gig, and we offend a whole county!  But back in the Iliad, Patroclus is dead, and the Greeks and Trojans fight over his body.  Why is a whole book concerned with Patroclus' body?  And why do we care about the armor and the horses of Achilles?  Brian, Shilo and Jeff talk about how this book contributes to the suspense of the story, and about the meaning of  Continue Reading …

Ep. 309: Wittgenstein On Certainty (Part One)

January 23, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get parts 1 and 2 of this now, ad-free. Discussing the notes Ludwig Wittgenstein made at the end of his life in 1951 that were published as On Certainty in 1969, featuring Mark, Wes, Dylan, and Seth. Check out the Overthink podcast and Conversations with Coleman. Attend our live show in NYC on April 15. These were in direct response to the essays by G.E.  Continue Reading …

C&C Ep. 74 Homer’s “Iliad” Book 16

January 22, 2023 by Jeff Black Leave a Comment

In this book, Achilles comes upon the crying Patroclus, and pities and chides him.  Then Patroclus puts on Achilles' armor, joins the fight, is stunned by Apollo, and killed by Hector.  Brian, Shilo and Jeff ask why Achilles lets Patroclus join the fight wearing Achilles' armor, when Achilles himself says he is ready to return to battle?  We explore Achilles' thinking: what is  Continue Reading …

NEM#188: Pat Irwin (Raybeats, B-52s, SUSS) Writes for TV (and Himself)

January 20, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Pat played saxophone and guitar with Lydia Lunch's group 8-Eyed Spy in 1979, and then moved on to The Raybeats, a "neo-surf rock combo," which recorded four albums through 1984. He wrote for stage shows and eventually joined the B-52s as a second guitarist/keyboardist in support of their Cosmic Thing album in 1989. In 1992 he had his first musical director role for TV with  Continue Reading …

(sub)Text: Better and Bested in “Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?”

January 20, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

It’s a play full of contradictions, secrets, lies, and unspoken rules. It’s a play decidedly for adults, but about a child—an imaginary one, no less. It takes place on a college campus, but it is absent of students. And it’s about “fun and games” and “playing pretend,” but its games are harsh and shocking, and playing pretend involves vengeance and even murder. Wes & Erin  Continue Reading …

Ep. 308: Moore’s Proof of Mind-Independent Reality (Part Two)

January 16, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get both parts of this episode ad free along with tons of bonus content including first crack on tickets to PEL Live April 15 in Manhattan. Continuing from part one, we quickly complete our treatment of G.E. Moore’s "Proof of the External World" (1939) and move on to consider "Certainty" (1941). Sponsors: Check out the Weird Studies podcast at  Continue Reading …

Pretty Much Pop #142: Song Lyric Literality w/ Dave Philpott

January 13, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Since 2008, Dave has written cheeky (but actually heavily researched) letters to rock stars that point out logical flaws in and/or deliberately misunderstand their lyrics. Many of these have been answered by the artists and housed in three books: Dear Mr. Kershaw, Dear Mr. Popstar, and Grammar Free In The U.K.  Mark Linsenmayer and Al Baker talk to Dave about the "green  Continue Reading …

Philosophy vs. Improv #45: Meaningful Road Trips w/ Dee Bradley Baker

January 11, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Voice actor Dee, who has a background in both improv and stand-up, talks to Mark and Bill about the meaning of life and engages in THREE scenes all about a parent trying to get some kids into a vehicle and on the road. Also, does COVID cause ennui? Hear more PvI. Support the podcast! You'll get all of our post-game discussions and other exclusive bonus content, including the  Continue Reading …

Ep. 308: Moore’s Proof of Mind-Independent Reality (Part One)

January 9, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get parts 1 and 2 of this now, ad-free. On G.E. Moore’s "Proof of the External World" (1939) and "Certainty" (1941), featuring Mark, Wes, Dylan, and Seth. Similar to the essay we covered in our last episode, Moore is defending common sense realism against idealists who claim that the external world is not mind-independent but is instead made up of ideas,  Continue Reading …

Combat & Classics Ep. 73 Homer’s “Iliad” Book 15

January 6, 2023 by Jeff Black Leave a Comment

Zeus wakes up, and gives us a spoiler of the rest of the Iliad.  Then he sets his will in motion.  Apollo fills Hector with chutzpah, and he leads the Trojans to fight among the Greek ships.  In this episode, Brian, Shilo, and Jeff ask about the smile of Zeus.  Has he caught Hera in a lie?  Does his smile mean that he thinks he is superior to all the other gods?  Is it boring  Continue Reading …

Ep. 307: G.E. Moore Defends Common Sense (Part Two)

January 2, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer 1 Comment

Subscribe to get both parts of this episode ad free, plus a supporter exclusive PEL Nightcap discussion. Continuing from part one on "A Defense of Common Sense" (1925), now down to Mark, Wes, and Dylan. We get into the nitty gritty of Moore's argument: Against idealism, Moore argues that physical facts are in now way dependent on mental facts; for instance, the  Continue Reading …

Pretty Much Pop #141: Christmas Songs

January 1, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

The PMP A-Team (Mark, Lawrence, Sarahlyn, and Al) talk about the canon of Christmas songs, from centuries-old carols to current attempts by pop stars to get added to this cycle of cash-flow. Happy holidays, everybody! We also do a bit of year-end reflection, getting into various things we've watched with some recommendations and ambivalent takes. This is the first time  Continue Reading …

PEL Nightcap 2022 Wrap-Up

January 1, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer 1 Comment

Recorded Dec. 11, 2022 by Mark, Wes, and Dylan before our first Moore discussion, so not an intentional holiday release, but we already had supporter audio for our Dobbs discussion, so you get this now. We start out with one more listener appreciation recording that I somehow overlooked before (from Dennis) and use this to reflect on whether our discussions are actually  Continue Reading …

Philosophy vs. Improv #44: Stand-Up vs. Improv w/ Matty Goldberg

December 26, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

As our first stand-up comedian (albeit one on sabbatical) guest, Matty has inspired us to largely ignore the philosophy on this one and instead look at these two different ways of producing comedy. Do the motivations of improv folks and comics differ? Which group is more annoying? Mark philosophizes at partiallyexaminedlife.com. Bill improvises (and teaches) at  Continue Reading …

Ep. 307: G.E. Moore Defends Common Sense (Part One)

December 26, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer 1 Comment

Subscribe to get parts 1 and 2 of this now, ad-free. On "A Defense of Common Sense" (1925), featuring Mark, Wes, Seth, and Dylan. Various philosophers will tell you that the only thing you experience is your own ideas, and hence the world outside of your mind is something wholly unknowable, or if it is knowable, it must be because those supposedly physical objects are  Continue Reading …

NEM#187: Eszter Balint Interprets Her Past

December 23, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Eszter is an actor/musician, gaining initial fame starring in Jim Jarmusch's first major film Stranger Than Paradise (1984). She has released four albums of often autobiographical songs since 1998. We discuss "The First Day" (and end by listening to "Freaks") from I Hate Memory (2022) feat. Stew and Syd Straw; this album has been made into a stage show. We then turn to "Exit  Continue Reading …

(sub)Text: Pagan Poetics in “Sunday Morning” by Wallace Stevens

December 20, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Wallace Stevens was an ungainly insurance executive, but his poetry is serene and secularly reverential. In particular, his poem “Sunday Morning” seems to suggest that the rhythm of the natural world—if we give it enough rapt attention—is as good as any chant or prayer. But can a return to nature worship solve the problem of nihilism, once monotheism has been eclipsed by  Continue Reading …

Pretty Much Pop #140: First Nations Culture w/ John Beaubien

December 19, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Western pop culture has increasingly explored stories of Indigenous Americans (and Canadians), through a spate of TV shows and films like Reservation Dogs, Rutherford Falls, Yellowstone, Prey, and others. As a further installment in a series that began with Mark's Partially Examined Life episode on American Indian philosophy and the previous Pretty Much Pop episode interviewing  Continue Reading …

Ep. 306: Dworkin and the Dobbs Decision (Part Two)

December 19, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get Parts 1 and 2 ad-free, plus a supporter exclusive Part 3. Continuing from part one on Ronald Dworkin's "Unenumerated Rights: Whether and How Roe Should be Overruled" (1992) and the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization (2021) decision featuring guest Robin Linsenmayer. Sponsors: Visit StoryWorth.com/pel to save $10 making it easy for your loved  Continue Reading …

Philosophy vs. Improv #43: Return Policy Violations

December 12, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

It's back to just Mark and Bill today. We talk about the lost art of prank phone calls and act out some "customer service nightmares" with an eye to the foundations of law and creativity that defies artistic rules. The scenes are longer and riskier than normal. Long-overdue apologies to Dirwin Zook. The image is by apparently a pretty disturbed child and somehow came up when  Continue Reading …

NEM#186: Simon Ratcliffe (Basement Jaxx, Village of the Sun): From House Music to Jazz Fusion

December 12, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Simon has produced programmed dance music since the early '90s, and has won Grammys and topped charts with his partner Felix Buxton as Basement Jaxx through their seven albums and several EPs. We discuss his most recent project, Village of the Sun (the song of that name from First Light), which he recorded with jazz drummer Moses Boyd and his partner, the saxophonist Binker  Continue Reading …

Ep. 306: Dworkin and the Dobbs Decision (Part One)

December 12, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get parts 1 and 2 of this now, ad-free. Does the U.S. Constitution guarantee the right to an abortion? Mark, Wes, Dylan, and Seth are joined by lawyer/sister Robin Linsenmayer to discuss Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization (2021) and Ronald Dworkin's "Unenumerated Rights: Whether and How Roe Should be Overruled" (1992). We previously considered  Continue Reading …

Pretty Much Pop #139: The Sandman Cometh

December 5, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

We cover the first chunk of Neil Gaiman's 1989 comic and its new Netflix adaptation. Mark is joined by acting coach Anthony LeBlanc, Sarahlyn Bruck, and Al Baker. What are the narrative challenges of depicting a god? What is the show's metaphysics the role of storytelling in it? Were the updates and story choices for the TV show helpful, or was the comic truly "unfilmable,"  Continue Reading …

Ep. 305: Cormac McCarthy’s “Blood Meridian” (Part Two)

December 5, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer 1 Comment

Subscribe to get Parts 1 and 2 ad-free, plus a supporter exclusive Part 3. Continuing from part one on McCarthy's 1985 novel, we discuss whether the plentiful, explicit violence in the book is actually gratuitous or whether it's central for presenting the book's philosophy. What makes the book supposedly unfilmable? The Partially Examined Life is sponsored by  Continue Reading …

Combat & Classics Ep. 72 Homer’s “Iliad” Book 14

December 3, 2022 by Jeff Black Leave a Comment

Poseidon interferes with the will of Zeus because Hera has seduced the king of the gods with a sexy belt. Also, the battle between the Greeks and Achaeans continues to escalate. We return to the question of "who should be in charge?" and try to figure out why someone should be in charge of something (war, sports, business) generally. We think especially about taking feedback  Continue Reading …

Combat & Classics Ep. 71 Homer’s “Iliad” Book 13

December 3, 2022 by Jeff Black Leave a Comment

We wonder why Book 13 doesn't have a cool name like Book 12 did. Then we turn to other questions, like what is on the minds of both sides of this conflict? is it true that military prowess, or military virtue, gives you other virtues, such as skill at deliberation? Or are the two things separate? Said another way and using the example of sports, why isn’t the best player  Continue Reading …

Combat & Classics Ep. 70 Homer’s “Iliad” Book 12

December 3, 2022 by Jeff Black Leave a Comment

Shilo, Jeff and Brian continue their read through of Homer's Iliad. We try to figure out why Book 12 exists as the midpoint of the story and how Homer is using it to build on his themes and continue the narrative. Specifically we ask why is the book so short compared to the others? Why all the similes about war and the natural world and is war a natural phenomenon? You can  Continue Reading …

Combat & Classics Ep. 69 Homer’s “Iliad” Book 11

December 3, 2022 by Jeff Black Leave a Comment

[Yell-y war voice] "CARNAGE ON THE BATTLEFIELD!!!!" Our opening question from Jeff is "can we spoil the Iliad?" We try to understand what's going on with the story in terms of the hierarchy of Greek heroes on the battlefield and who the "good guys" and the "bad guys" are. We also try to understand what's happening with Achilles, who said that he'd return to the fight once  Continue Reading …

NEM#185: Bruce Thomas’ Bass Lines Before, After, and During the Attractions

November 28, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Bruce is best known as Elvis Costello's bassist for his first on about a dozen albums as The Attractions, but he's been in bands since 1970 and has done numerous session gigs, most notably for Al Stewart's early albums, plus The Pretenders, John Wesley Harding, Billy Bragg, and many more. We discuss his work on "Blood Makes Noise" by Susanne Vega from 99.9 Degrees (1992),  Continue Reading …

(sub)Text: Production for Use in “His Girl Friday”

November 28, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Before she settles down to life of homemaking, security, and insurance policies with Bruce Baldwin in Albany, star reporter Hildy Johnson has one more story to write for her ex-husband and ex-boss Walter Burns, editor of the Morning Post. Hildy must write up an interview with convicted killer Earl Williams that will grant him a last-minute reprieve on the basis of insanity. The  Continue Reading …

Ep. 305: Cormac McCarthy’s “Blood Meridian” (Part One)

November 28, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer 4 Comments

Subscribe to get parts 1 and 2 of this now, ad-free. On McCarthy's 1985 anti-Western novel, featuring Wes, Seth, and Dylan. How does violence play a role in the way the world works? The novel tells a historically based story of the 19th century Glanton gang who were hired as scalp hunters by the Mexican government but then went on a rogue massacre. It's told from the  Continue Reading …

Philosophy vs. Improv #42: The Worth of a Human Life w/ Carneades the YouTube Star

November 21, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

The anonymous policy wonk who runs the Carneades.org YouTube channel joins Mark and Bill to discuss the core concept of his new book, Are All Lives Equal?: Why Cost-Benefit Analysis Values Rich Lives More and How Philosophy Can Fix It. Should economics really be measuring the value of life at all? Can it do this in any principled way? Can economists really understand how  Continue Reading …

Pretty Much Pop #138: What Are “Creatives”?

November 21, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Is there really a division in today's culture between those who create and the merely receptive masses? Mark gathers three artists in different media about the place of the artist in society: sci-fi author Brian Hirt, art photographer and academic Amir Zaki, and musician/novelist/ex-English prof John Andrew Fredrick (of The Black Watch). We touch on art education, the  Continue Reading …

Ep. 304: Dworkin v. Hart on Legal Judgment (Part Two)

November 21, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get both parts of this episode ad free, plus a supporter exclusive PEL Nightcap discussion. Continuing from part one on Roland Dworkin's "The Model of Rules" (1967) and Scott J. Shapiro's "The 'Hart-Dworkin' Debate: A Short Guide for the Perplexed" (2007), plus some of Dworkin's "Hard Cases" (1977). We go through some responses by Hartians to Dworkin's  Continue Reading …

PEL Nightcap November 2022: Listener Testimonials

November 19, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer 1 Comment

Recorded 10/26/22. We recently put out a call among our supporters for some short audio clips of folks telling us about their relationship to PEL, and here they are. Mark, Seth, and Dylan play and respond to all of these. We are grateful to those that submitted, and all of you! We also talk about a few responses to our last Nightcap on representation.  Continue Reading …

Combat & Classics Ep. 68 Bonus Pod Q&A with Mr. Mark Eleveld’s AP Literature Class at Kankakee High School

November 18, 2022 by Jeff Black Leave a Comment

We got some calls! Thanks a ton to Mark Eleveld and his students at Kankakee High School. We’re truly honored that you all took the time to call or write in with your questions about our Episode 62 on the Iliad Book 5, where we discussed the apparent blurring of gods and mortals, and especially Diomedes' wounding of a god, as well as the difference between courage and the  Continue Reading …

NEM#184: Mike Baggetta Feels Out the Guitar

November 14, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Mike has put out 18 releases of largely instrumental guitar music since 2004, sometimes with his jazz quintet or as a duo with trumpeter Kris Tiner, and more recently in more of an instrumental rock format with legendary bassist Mike Watt and with drums by either Jim Keltner (Traveling Wilburys, Ry Cooder) or Stephen Hodges (Tom Waits). We discuss the title track to  Continue Reading …

Ep. 304: Dworkin v. Hart on Legal Judgment (Part One)

November 14, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get parts 1 and 2 of this now, ad-free. On Ronald Dworkin's "The Model of Rules" (1967) and Scott J. Shapiro's "The 'Hart-Dworkin' Debate: A Short Guide for the Perplexed" (2007). How do judges make decisions in hard cases? When the law "runs out" and doesn't definitively decide, e.g., whether we have a general "right of privacy," do judges then just draw  Continue Reading …

Pretty Much Pop #137: Slashing the “Halloween” Film Franchise

November 10, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

What's the appeal of this 13-film franchise that started with John Carpenter's 1978 film Halloween and has purportedly wrapped up with David Gordon Green's Halloween Ends? Actor/SFX makeup designer/horror podcaster Nathan Shelton joins Mark, Lawrence, and Al to figure out if even all the various filmmakers involved understood what the appeal of that first film was.  Continue Reading …

Combat & Classics Ep. 67 Homer’s “Iliad” Book 10

November 8, 2022 by Jeff Black Leave a Comment

The Night Raid! It’s an important book kinda in the middle of the story with lots of action. Agamemnon wakes up in the middle of the night and convenes a war planning committee. Nestor says the Greeks should send some spies out; Diomedes and Odysseus volunteer. Hector also calls for a spy to go look at the what the Greeks are up too, and Dolon volunteers. We talk about the  Continue Reading …

Ep. 303: H.L.A. Hart on the Foundations of Law (Part Two)

November 7, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get Parts 1 and 2 ad-free, plus a supporter exclusive Part 3. Continuing from part one on "Positivism and the Separation of Law and Morals" (1958) and The Concept of Law (1961), ch. 5 and 6. If law is not based on morality, then why obey the law? Hart claims that it's just a fact that most of us feel most of the time that we should obey the law. If this  Continue Reading …

Philosophy vs. Improv #41: Situatedness in Three Persons w/ Sarah Shockey

November 1, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

What is personhood? How can a group best collaboratively invent a scene? Sarah is a host of Marty and Sarah Love Wrestling and a repeat guest on Hello From the Magic Tavern. We fit in THREE scenes, some discussion of the various layers of what it is for something to be (or not be) person, and some musings about the weather and such. Follow us @sarahjoyshockey, @btarnett, and  Continue Reading …

(sub)Text: Post-Doctoral Bedevilment in Christopher Marlowe’s “Dr. Faustus”

November 1, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Dr. Faustus expected more from his education. After a lifetime of study, his professional options—philosophy, medicine, law, and theology—all seem disappointingly ordinary. He is of course not the first to have this experience. At a societal level, the promise of knowledge is power, especially once it has become technology. At an individual level, what education seems to make  Continue Reading …

Ep. 303: H.L.A. Hart on the Foundations of Law (Part One)

October 31, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get parts 1 and 2 of this now, ad-free. On "Positivism and the Separation of Law and Morals" (1958) and The Concept of Law (1961), ch. 5 and 6. What's the relationship between law and morality? If law isn't founded on morality, what is it founded on? Hart was a leading figure in the philosophy of law, and wrote in the tradition of legal positivism that goes  Continue Reading …

NEM#183: Neil Gust (No. 2, Heatmiser) Walks Around

October 29, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Neil is known as the long-time collaborator of the late Elliot Smith (pictured with him here from 1995). They met in college in 1987, had a band named Swimming Jesus, then moved to Portland and released three albums and an EP together as Heatmiser starting in 1993. Then Neil fronted the band No. 2 for two albums (1999 and 2002) before taking a break until recently from  Continue Reading …

Pretty Much Pop #135: The Breaking Bad-O-Verse

October 24, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Given the end of Better Call Saul, Mark, Lawrence Ware, Sarahlyn Bruck, and Al Baker discuss this strange TV "franchise" that amazingly produced a prequel that was arguably better than the original. We cover the characterization and pacing, novelistic TV vs. not having a plot roadmap in advance, and whether we want to see another installment in this world. In the post-game,  Continue Reading …

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