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Ep. 322: Schelling on Art vs. Nature (Part Three)

August 7, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get parts 1-3 of this discussion ad-free, plus tons of bonus content. Mark and Wes conclude with some close reading of Part 6 of System of Transcendental Idealism (1800), section 3: "Relation of Art to Philosophy." What exactly is self-consciousness, and how to we achieve it? We try to really figure out Schelling's story about art in light of his general  Continue Reading …

Ep. 322: Schelling on Art vs. Nature (Part Two)

July 31, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get parts 1-3 of this discussion now, ad-free, plus tons of bonus content. Continuing (sans Seth) from part one on "On the Relation Between the Plastic Arts and Nature" (1807) and Part 6 of System of Transcendental Idealism (1800). We finish up the 1807 speech by talking about sculpture vs. painting and then move on to this penultimate chapter of this  Continue Reading …

Ep. 322: Schelling on Art vs. Nature (Part Two for Supporters)

July 22, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer 1 Comment

Continuing (sans Seth) from part one on "On the Relation Between the Plastic Arts and Nature" (1807) and Part 6 of System of Transcendental Idealism (1800). We finish up the 1807 speech by talking about sculpture vs. painting and then move on to this penultimate chapter of this early, systematic, seminal work whose beginning we treated in episodes 273 and 274. The System of  Continue Reading …

Ep. 322: Schelling on Art vs. Nature (Part One for Supporters)

July 22, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Discussing Friedrich Wilhelm Joseph Schelling's "On the Relation Between the Plastic Arts and Nature" (1807) and Part 6 of System of Transcendental Idealism (1800), featuring Mark, Wes, Dylan, and Seth. Is the goal of art to imitate nature? Schelling says "sort of." It's not supposed to just be a copy, but is supposed to convey the true inner nature of its subject: It copies  Continue Reading …

Ep. 321: August Schlegel on Beauty (Part One)

July 10, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get parts 1 and 2 of this now, ad-free, plus tons of bonus content including (next week) a supporter-exclusive Nightcap discussion. Covering the elder Schlegel brother's Theory of Art (ca. 1800), as excerpted in Theory as Practice: A Critical Anthology of Early German Romantic Writings. Sponsors: Get 15% off a newly cheaper annual membership at  Continue Reading …

Ep. 321: August Schlegel on Beauty (Part Two for Supporters)

July 8, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Continuing from part one on our excerpt from Theory of Art (ca. 1800), we get more into the text, covering Schlegel's critique of various elements of Kant's philosophy of art. We start with the distinction between free and accessory beauty: Are there some perceptions of beauty that are entirely divorced from a notion of the purpose or type of thing that we're perceiving as  Continue Reading …

Ep. 321: August Schlegel on Beauty (Part One for Supporters)

July 8, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Covering the elder Schlegel brother's Theory of Art (ca. 1800), as excerpted in Theory as Practice: A Critical Anthology of Early German Romantic Writings. August Wilhelm Schlegel was five years older than Friedrich, and was also a well known art critic of his time. This text is a Romantic response to Kant's Third Critique, and we looked back at Kant's comments on the  Continue Reading …

Ep. 319: Schiller on Experiencing Beauty (Part Three for Supporters)

June 16, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

In our final word on Friedrich Schiller's On the Aesthetic Education of Man (1795), we cover letters 24-27 in more detail than we had time for in supposedly finishing with this reading in part two. Schiller talks first about hypothetical Reason, where Reason doesn't actually pull us toward Kantian morality, but just lets us get what we want more effectively. By granting us  Continue Reading …

Ep. 319: Schiller on Experiencing Beauty (Part One)

June 11, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get parts 1 and 2 of this now, ad-free, plus tons of bonus content including a supporter-exclusive part three to this discussion. On the second half of Friedrich Schiller's On the Aesthetic Education of Man (1795), with Mark, Wes, and Dylan. You might want to listen to ep. 318 first. While the overall argument is still that an education in appreciating art  Continue Reading …

Ep. 319: Schiller on Experiencing Beauty (Part Two for Supporters)

June 9, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer 1 Comment

Starting with letter 20 in On the Aesthetic Education of Man (1795), we tell more of the story of how art is supposed to get us from sensation to thinking. This continues from part one and ultimately from ep. 318. As a Romantic, Schiller's aesthetic theory is very central to his take on epistemology and human nature. For Kant (whose aesthetic theory Schiller is working off  Continue Reading …

Ep. 319: Schiller on Experiencing Beauty (Part One for Supporters)

June 9, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

On the second half of Friedrich Schiller's On the Aesthetic Education of Man (1795), with Mark, Wes, and Dylan. You might want to listen to ep. 318 first. While the overall argument is still that an education in appreciating art can transform the masses from desire-driven savages into rational beings worthy of representative government, starting around letter 14 through the  Continue Reading …

Ep. 318: Friedrich Schiller on the Civilizing Potential of Art (Part Two)

June 5, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get parts 1 and 2 of this ad-free, plus a supporter-exclusive part three. Listen to a preview.. We continue (from part one) working through letters 1-15 of On the Aesthetic Education of Man (1795), helped by Markus Reuter. By the end of this, we get a clearer picture of what Schiller means by the experience of Beauty. We have a sensuous drive on the one hand  Continue Reading …

Ep. 318: Friedrich Schiller on the Civilizing Potential of Art (Part One)

May 29, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer 2 Comments

Subscribe to get parts 1 and 2 of this now, ad-free, plus tons of bonus content including an exclusive part three to this discussion. Can art make us better people? Musician Markus Reuter joins Mark, Wes, and Seth to discussion the first half of On the Aesthetic Education of Man (1795). Schiller was a famous poet of early German Romanticism, and this book is partly  Continue Reading …

Ep. 318: Friedrich Schiller on the Civilizing Potential of Art (Part Two for Supporters)

May 28, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer 4 Comments

We continue (from part one) working through letters 1-15 of On the Aesthetic Education of Man (1795), helped by Markus Reuter. By the end of this, we get a clearer picture of what Schiller means by the experience of Beauty. We have a sensuous drive on the one hand to fill our experience with material stuff, and a form drive on the other that raises us up (a la Plato) to wonder  Continue Reading …

Ep. 318: Friedrich Schiller on the Civilizing Potential of Art (Part One for Supporters)

May 28, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Can art make us better people? Musician Markus Reuter joins Mark, Wes, and Seth to discussion the first half of On the Aesthetic Education of Man (1795). Schiller was a famous poet of early German Romanticism, and this book is partly political philosophy and partly philosophy of art. The work takes the form of a series of letters. We read 1-15 for this discussion and will cover  Continue Reading …

Ep. 292: Langer on Symbolic Music (Part One)

April 24, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer 2 Comments

Subscribe to get Part 2 of this episode. Listen to a preview. Hear this part ad-free. On Susanne Langer's Philosophy in a New Key (1942), ch. 8-10 ("On Significance in Music," "The Genesis of Artistic Import," and "The Fabric of Meaning" respectively), plus ch. 7, "The Image of Time," from her Form and Feeling (1953). Is music a language? If it's "expressive," what exactly  Continue Reading …

Ep. 292: Langer on Symbolic Music (Part Two for Supporters)

April 23, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer 2 Comments

Concluding from part one on Susanne Langer's Philosophy in a New Key (ch. 8-10). We continue discussion whether and how music is symbolic, contrasting Langer's take with Scruton's on Eduard Hanslick: you can't just consider music as "intransitively referential" or referring only to itself, because that's not reference at all.. Wes brings up Simon & Garfunkel's "Mrs.  Continue Reading …

Ep. 292: Langer on Symbolic Music (Part One for Supporters)

April 23, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

On Susanne Langer's Philosophy in a New Key (1942), ch. 8-10 ("On Significance in Music," "The Genesis of Artistic Import," and "The Fabric of Meaning), plus ch. 7, "The Image of Time," from her Form and Feeling (1953). Is music a language? If it's "expressive," what exactly does it express? Langer focuses on music to get at the sorts of symbolism associated specifically  Continue Reading …

Ep. 289: Aesthetic Sense Theory: Shaftesbury, Hutcheson, Hume (Part One)

March 14, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer 1 Comment

Subscribe to get Part 2 of this episode. Listen to a preview. Hear this part ad-free. On David Hume's "The Standard of Taste" (1760) and its two main influences: The Moralists: A Philosophical Rhapsody (1709) by Anthony Ashley-Cooper, aka the third Earl of Shaftesbury, Part III section 2 "Beauty," and An Inquiry Concerning Beauty, Order, Harmony, Design (1725) by  Continue Reading …

Ep. 289: Aesthetic Sense Theory: Hume (Part Two for Supporters)

March 14, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Continuing from part one, we get into more detail on David Hume's "The Standard of Taste" (1760). Hume starts out with a paradox: On the one hand, we believe that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; it's not a property of objects but of the interaction between an object and an observer. On the other hand, some works are obviously, objectively more beautiful than others,  Continue Reading …

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