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Ep. 327: Harry Frankfurt on Bullshit and Authenticity (Part One)

October 16, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get parts 1 and 2 of this now, ad-free, plus tons of bonus content. Mark, Wes, Dylan, and Seth discuss the celebrated 1986 essay "On Bullshit." (In part two, we'll cover by contrast his 1982 essay "The Importance of What We Care About.") What is bullshit, or "humbug" as a previous essay by Max Black calls it? Frankfurt starts with Black's definition  Continue Reading …

Ep. 327: Harry Frankfurt on Bullshit and Authenticity (Part One for Supporters)

October 14, 2023 by Mark Linsenmayer

Mark, Wes, Dylan, and Seth discuss the celebrated 1986 essay "On Bullshit." (In part two, we'll cover by contrast his 1982 essay "The Importance of What We Care About.") What is bullshit, or "humbug" as a previous essay by Max Black calls it? Frankfurt starts with Black's definition ("deceptive misrepresentation, short of lying, especially by pretentious word or deed, of  Continue Reading …

Ep. 302: Erasmus Praises Foolishness (Part One)

October 17, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Subscribe to get parts 1 and 2 of this now, ad-free. On Desiderius Erasmus' The Praise of Folly (1509), featuring Mark, Wes, Dylan, and Nathan Gilmour from the Christian Humanist podcast. Does foolishness enhance life? The Dutch Renaissance Catholic theologian known for his disputes with Martin Luther criticized the church from the inside, using gentle satire that  Continue Reading …

Ep. 302: Erasmus Praises Foolishness (Part Two for Supporters) 

October 15, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer

Continuing from part one on The Praise of Folly (1509) with guest Nathan Gilmour. Can foolishness actually make us more prudent, which sounds like its opposite? Well, having the wisdom to avoid all trouble keeps us from getting experience that would be helpful in acting more wisely in the long run. Erasmus (speaking with the voice of Folly) claims that foolishness in some  Continue Reading …

Ep. 302: Erasmus Praises Foolishness (Part One for Supporters) 

October 15, 2022 by Mark Linsenmayer

On Desiderius Erasmus' The Praise of Folly (1509), featuring Mark, Wes, Dylan, and Nathan Gilmour from the Christian Humanist podcast. Does foolishness enhance life? The Dutch Renaissance Catholic theologian known for his disputes with Martin Luther criticized the church from the inside, using gentle satire that targeted everyone, including intellectuals like himself. The  Continue Reading …

Ep. 254: Michael Sandel Interview: Against Meritocracy (Part One)

October 12, 2020 by Mark Linsenmayer 8 Comments

Subscribe to get Part 2 of this episode, or listen to a preview. Citizens can get the entire second part here. On The Tyranny of Merit: What's Become of the Common Good? (2020). Previously, Michael Sandel argued for the necessity for public policy to be driven by ethics (see our ep. 97) and then applied this to argue against a purely market-driven society (see our interview  Continue Reading …

Ep. 254: Michael Sandel Interview: Against Meritocracy (Part One for Supporters)

October 11, 2020 by Mark Linsenmayer

On The Tyranny of Merit: What's Become of the Common Good? (2020). Previously, Michael Sandel argued for the necessity for public policy to be driven by ethics (see our ep. 97) and then applied this to argue against a purely market-driven society (see our interview with him for ep. 98). A society where everything is for sale seems obviously open to critique, but what about  Continue Reading …

Ep. 247: Aristotle on Rhetoric and Emotions (Part Two)

July 13, 2020 by Mark Linsenmayer Leave a Comment

Continuing on the Rhetoric (ca. 335 BCE) book 1, ch. 1–6 and book 2, ch. 1–5, 18–24. We finish up with enthymemes (rhetorical arguments), maxims, and signs. We then move to emotions, where we chiefly talk about anger: Is it always a matter of status injury, or is frustration equally (or more) foundational? Begin with part one, or get the unbroken, ad-free Citizen Edition  Continue Reading …

Ep. 247: Aristotle on Rhetoric and Emotions (Part One)

July 6, 2020 by Mark Linsenmayer 1 Comment

Aristotle

On the Rhetoric (ca. 335 BCE) book 1, ch. 1–6 and book 2, ch. 1–5, 18–24. What role does persuasion play in philosophy? In Plato's Gorgias, Socrates condemns the sophists who taught rhetoric for merely endowing their students with social power over others, power that would make them neither happy nor virtuous. Philosophy should be about getting at the truth. Aristotle  Continue Reading …

Ep. 247: Aristotle on Rhetoric and Emotions (Citizen Edition)

July 6, 2020 by Mark Linsenmayer

Aristotle

On the Rhetoric (ca. 335 BCE) book 1, ch. 1–6 and book 2, ch. 1–5, 18–24. What role does persuasion play in philosophy? In Plato's Gorgias, Socrates condemns the sophists who taught rhetoric for merely endowing their students with social power over others, power that would make them neither happy nor virtuous. Philosophy should be about getting at the truth. Aristotle  Continue Reading …

Deinotes: Dread, Wonder, and the Art of Persuasion

August 2, 2016 by reqdevtest 5 Comments

The uneasiness Athenians felt toward the Sophists is captured beautifully in a Greek word that later came to define rhetoric at large. Deinos is an adjective with manifold meanings, and a deeper look at the word can help us understand why the Sophists were both disliked and revered, how the art of rhetoric works, and perhaps why Socrates himself was accused of mastering  Continue Reading …

Episode 142: Plato’s “Phaedrus” on Love and Speechmaking

June 27, 2016 by Mark Linsenmayer 8 Comments

Socrates hangs out in the country flirting with his buddy Phaedrus. And what is this "Platonic" love you've all heard about? Well, you use the enticement of desire not to rush toward fulfillment, but to get all excited about talking philosophy. Phaedrus starts off reading a speech by renowned orator Lysias (actually Plato's invention parodying the style of this real guy)  Continue Reading …

Ep. 142: Plato’s “Phaedrus” on Love and Speechmaking (Citizen Edition)

June 27, 2016 by Mark Linsenmayer

Socrates hangs out in the country flirting with his buddy Phaedrus. And what is this "Platonic" love you've all heard about? Well, you use the enticement of desire not to rush toward fulfillment, but to get all excited about talking philosophy. Phaedrus starts off reading a speech by renowned orator Lysias (actually Plato's invention parodying the style of this real guy)  Continue Reading …

Episode 96: Oppenheimer and the Rhetoric of Science Advisers (Citizen Edition)

July 1, 2014 by Mark Linsenmayer

Discussing Lynda Walsh's book Scientists as Prophets: A Rhetorical Genealogy (2013) with the author, focusing on Robert J. Oppenheimer. We also read a speech from 1950 he gave called "The Encouragement of Science." What is the role of the science adviser? Should scientists just "stick to the facts," or can only someone with technical knowledge make decisions about what to  Continue Reading …

Episode 96: Oppenheimer and the Rhetoric of Science Advisers

July 1, 2014 by Mark Linsenmayer 18 Comments

Discussing Lynda Walsh's book Scientists as Prophets: A Rhetorical Genealogy (2013) with the author, focusing on Robert J. Oppenheimer. We also read a speech from 1950 he gave called "The Encouragement of Science." What is the role of the science adviser? Should scientists just "stick to the facts," or can only someone with technical knowledge make decisions about what to  Continue Reading …

Precognition of Ep. 96: Oppenheimer’s Rhetoric

June 30, 2014 by Mark Linsenmayer

Guest Lynda Walsh describes her book Scientists as Prophets: A Rhetorical Genealogy, focusing on J. Robert Oppenheimer's conflicted position after WWII as science advisor and anti-nuke spokesman. Listen to the full episode. Read more about the topic and get the readings.  Continue Reading …

Precognition of Ep. 96: Oppenheimer’s Rhetoric

June 28, 2014 by Mark Linsenmayer 3 Comments

Guest Lynda Walsh describes her book Scientists as Prophets: A Rhetorical Genealogy, focusing on J. Robert Oppenheimer's conflicted position after WWII as science advisor and anti-nuke spokesman. Read more about the topic and get the readings.  Continue Reading …

Topic for #96: Oppenheimer and the Rhetoric of Science Advisers

June 26, 2014 by Mark Linsenmayer 9 Comments

Listen to Lynda Walsh's introduction to her book. Much like our fan-favorite episode from last year on Heraclitus with Eva Brann, on this episode recorded on 6/6/14, we talked to an author, Lynda Walsh (an old friend of Seth's) about her book, and just as a good chunk of what was interesting about talking with Eva and reading her book was getting a flavor for the  Continue Reading …

Socrates’ Attack on Rhetoric in the “Gorgias”

January 19, 2013 by Seth Paskin 19 Comments

  I have never shared the vitriol in Plato's dialogues for rhetoric.  I understand why he goes after people for holding what he considers to be untenable positions, particularly if they are teachers or otherwise influencers of others.  But only insofar as they hold beliefs which don't accord with his own or if they appear to have a methodology or agenda that is  Continue Reading …

PREVIEW-Episode 69: Plato on Rhetoric vs. Philosophy

January 12, 2013 by Mark Linsenmayer 27 Comments

Plato

This is a short preview of the full episode. Buy Now Purchase this episode for $2.99. Or become a PEL Citizen for $5 a month, and get access to this and all other paywalled episodes, including 68 back catalogue episodes; exclusive Part 2's for episodes published after September, 2020; and our after-show Nightcap, where the guys respond to listener email and chat more  Continue Reading …

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