Pretty Much Pop #66: Scary Movies w/ Nathan Shelton

What scares us? Why do people enjoy being scared by films? What’s the deal with “horror” movies that are good but not scary or that are terrible yet still scary in some way? Mark, Erica, Brian are joined by actor/SFX makeup designer Nathan Shelton (who runs the Frightmare Theatre Podcast) for a Halloween conversation where no one gets a rock.

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We present our picks for what scared us as kids: Trilogy of Terror, Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978), Dark Night of the Scarecrow, and Copycat, and go on about Arachnophobia, The Blair Witch Project, Halloween, Friday the 13th, The Thing, and Nightmare on Elm Street. We also discussion horror aimed at women, body horror, tropophobia, horror movie music, and Stephen King. Finally, we consider the revival in art horror by the likes of Mike Flanagan (Dr. Sleep, Haunting of Bly Manor), Ari Aster (Midsommar, Hereditary), and Robert Eggers (The Witch).

We drew on a break-down on the various elements that make up the horror genre from Matt Glasby, in an an article called “The Scariest Films Ever Made and How They Frighten Us.”

For a lengthy academic look at the topic, try “(Why) Do You Like Scary Movies? A Review of the Empirical Research on Psychological Responses to Horror Films” (2019) by G. Neil Martin.

If you don’t mind a key scene from The Thing (1982) being spoiled, check out this landmark grody special effect scene.

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